Virallinen Transporter T6.1 -24 Composition Colour -> MIB3 Pro

[J.Aspinen]

Tässä Juhannuksen aikana olisi tarkoitus asentaa MIB3 ja tuulilasikamera (A5) tuorehkoon Transportteriin. Samaiseen autoon asensin jo aiemmin digimittariston joka meni suht kivuttomasti. Tämä MIB3 onkin jo sitten vähän työläämpi. Katsotaan kuinka käy. Laitan tähän ketjuun vähän juttua asennuksesta kuvien kera myöhemmin sitä mukaa kun projekti etenee.

 

[jugih]

Jee! Jäämme odottelemaan

 

[J.Aspinen]

Aikamoinen jumppa on menossa. Ei niinkään mekaaniset työt vaan sähköt sekä koodaus.

 

[J.Aspinen]

No niin... nyt se valmistui pienten vastoinkäymisten jälkeen. Käytännössä koko kojelaudan alaosa piti purkaa. Uudelle keskusyksikölle on paikka kojelaudan keskimmäisen alamuovin takana. Adapterijohtosarja ei suoraan sopinut paikalleen kytkentöjen puolesta vaan sitä piti hieman muokata. Vihreään liittimeen tulee ainoastaan ETH+ ja ETH- mittaristolta sekä OCUlta. Vihreästä liittimestä täytyy siirtää USB-C liitinpinnit siniseen liittimeen.
A5 tuulilasikameran CAN-väyläjohdot tuli liitettyä suoraan 19 - Gateway ohjainlaitteeseen ("Power train"-väylään), joka sijaitsee mittariston takana. Väyläjohtojen liitinrasia olisi ollut kojelaudan sivussa oikealla puolella mutta päätin olla jatkamatta väyläjohtoja.
Sitten olikin vuorossa komponenttisuojien avaaminen, parametrointi ja koodaaminen. VCToolin backup kirjastosta löysin Multivanin jossa nuo varusteet oli vakiona joten sieltä sain koodaukselle mallia suurimmaksi osaksi. Loput piti sitten käsin syöttää, jotta kaikki toimisi kuten pitää.
Myös eCall heräsi lopulta henkiin kun poistin koodauksista sille varatun ulkoisen kaiuttimen. MIB3:ssa se käyttää ovikauittimia.

Tästä lähdettiin liikkeelle.







Tuossa näkyy keskusyksikön uusi paikka.

Hieman sommittelua ja kokeilua ennen kasausta.

Tässä näkyy tuulilasikamera sekä SOS valo vihreänä

Sopiihan tuo MIB3 Pro mielestäni hieman paremmin yhteen tuon AID:n kanssa.


Navit ja muut lisenssit tulee aktivoitua muutaman viikon kuluttua jahka saan työkalut siihen hommaan.

 

[jugih]

On se äijjä
Katsoinko oikein ja puuttuuko portterista vielä weba, vai onko käyttö vielä kattokonsolista?
Jos ei ni se sitten seuraavaksi

Edit. Onhan se siellä, ainakin avaimissa roikkuu kake.

 

[J.Aspinen]

Seuraavaksi taitaa tulle etututkan laitto. Se on sitten eri remontti.

 

[J.Aspinen]

Huomasin muuten että uudet 2Q0* tuulilasikamerat ova tehneet aimo harppaukseen eteenpäin, ne nimittäin kalibroivat itse itsensä ajossa. Toki myös staattinen kalibrointi edelleen mahdollista.






Tämä nyt hieman aihetta sivuten.. mutta tuli esille samassa yhteydessä tämän projektin kanssa.

 

[J.Aspinen]

Tämän projektin kanssa tulikin ilmi, että autossa oleva "Lowline" mallinen OCU joudutaan vaihtamaan "Highline" malliin. Syy tähän on se että lowline ei osaa siirtää GPS signaalia eteenpäin MIB:lle. Sattui olemaan eräs highline ocu tässä ylimääräisenä, jonka kokeen vuoksi heitin autoon niin heti tuli signaali läpi MIB:lle. Ethernet pinnit löytyvät myös lowlinesta mutta ilmeisesti ne eivät ole mihinkään kytketty ocun sisällä.
Tosiaan siis Transportterissa on oikean puolen sivupeilissä GPS antenni, joka on kytketty OCUun. OCUssa taas GPS signaali muuntuu ja siirtyy ethernet väylää pitkin MIB3:lle.

 

[cguncha]

Con este proyecto, quedó claro que el modelo "Lowline" de la OCU del coche debía reemplazarse por uno "Highline". Esto se debe a que la Lowline no puede enviar la señal GPS a la MIB. Casualmente, tenía una OCU Highline adicional, la cual incorporé al coche para realizar pruebas y la señal llegó inmediatamente a la MIB. Los pines Ethernet también se encuentran en la Lowline, pero aparentemente no están conectados a ningún componente dentro de la OCU.
Así pues, el Transporter cuenta con una antena GPS en el retrovisor derecho, conectada a la OCU. En la OCU, la señal GPS se convierte y se transmite a través del bus Ethernet a la MIB3.

¡Hola! Compré una unidad PSRA VW T6.1 3g5035820P pirateada con todas las opciones activadas: Navi, Android Auto, CarPlay, etc. Inicialmente, el vendedor me dijo que sería plug and play, salvo cambiar algunos cables de los conectores azul y verde, como mencionas, debido a algo en la configuración MIB3, que es algo diferente. Hasta ahora, todo genial. Compré un extensor de cableado para poder alimentar el conector de la pantalla y todo funcionó excepto el navegador GPS. Tu publicación ha sido muy esclarecedora. Ahora entiendo que mi módulo eCall Low tiene que ser reemplazado por una versión superior (¡nuevo, usado, no!). Según una imagen de etka, he visto que está oculto detrás del panel de instrumentos. ¿El cableado del eCall Low es el mismo que el de la versión superior? ¿Necesito agregar más cableado? Estoy considerando volver a la composición de colores o continuar. Muchas gracias por toda la información en la publicación.

Edit: pls write in english. -J.Aspinen

In english:
Hello! I bought a hacked PSRA VW T6.1 3g5035820P unit with all options activated: Navi, Android Auto, CarPlay, etc. Initially, the seller told me it would be plug and play, except for changing some wires in the blue and green connectors, as you mention, due to something in the MIB3 configuration, which is somewhat different. So far, so great. I bought a wiring extender to be able to feed the display connector and everything worked except the GPS navigator. Your post has been very enlightening. I now understand that my eCall Low module has to be replaced with a higher version (new, used, no!). According to an etka image, I have seen that it is hidden behind the instrument panel. Is the wiring of the eCall Low the same as the higher version? Do I need to add more wiring? I am considering going back to the color composition or continuing. Thanks so much for all the information in the post.

 

[jugih]

Miten tää projekti päättyi?
Saitko swapit aktivoitua? Onlineen ei taida päästä mitenkään?

 

[J.Aspinen]

Online ei pääse mutta kaikki swapit on kyllä aktivoitu.

 

[J.Aspinen]

¡Hola! Compré una unidad PSRA VW T6.1 3g5035820P pirateada con todas las opciones activadas: Navi, Android Auto, CarPlay, etc. Inicialmente, el vendedor me dijo que sería plug and play, salvo cambiar algunos cables de los conectores azul y verde, como mencionas, debido a algo en la configuración MIB3, que es algo diferente. Hasta ahora, todo genial. Compré un extensor de cableado para poder alimentar el conector de la pantalla y todo funcionó excepto el navegador GPS. Tu publicación ha sido muy esclarecedora. Ahora entiendo que mi módulo eCall Low tiene que ser reemplazado por una versión superior (¡nuevo, usado, no!). Según una imagen de etka, he visto que está oculto detrás del panel de instrumentos. ¿El cableado del eCall Low es el mismo que el de la versión superior? ¿Necesito agregar más cableado? Estoy considerando volver a la composición de colores o continuar. Muchas gracias por toda la información en la publicación.

Edit: pls write in english. -J.Aspinen

In english:
Hello! I bought a hacked PSRA VW T6.1 3g5035820P unit with all options activated: Navi, Android Auto, CarPlay, etc. Initially, the seller told me it would be plug and play, except for changing some wires in the blue and green connectors, as you mention, due to something in the MIB3 configuration, which is somewhat different. So far, so great. I bought a wiring extender to be able to feed the display connector and everything worked except the GPS navigator. Your post has been very enlightening. I now understand that my eCall Low module has to be replaced with a higher version (new, used, no!). According to an etka image, I have seen that it is hidden behind the instrument panel. Is the wiring of the eCall Low the same as the higher version? Do I need to add more wiring? I am considering going back to the color composition or continuing. Thanks so much for all the information in the post.

You have to use Highline OCU for GPS to work. Wiring is same for High- and Lowline. No need for additional wiring. You can use a second hand module because adaption is not gonna be possible due to car have originally Lowline OCU.

 

[cguncha]

You have to use Highline OCU for GPS to work. Wiring is same for High- and Lowline. No need for additional wiring. You can use a second hand module because adaption is not gonna be possible due to car have originally Lowline OCU.

I reviewed the wiring diagram and found that I had to move pin 5 of the blue connector to pin 9 of the gray connector. I think it's due to something related to the OCU mute. In the diagram, both pins 11 and 12 of the green connector (Ethernet) are connected to the OCU. I don't have this wiring in my harness. I don't know if it's necessary. I received confusing information about another pin on the green connector of the harness, number 3 (USB 5V), which should be moved to the gray connector, pin 4 (wake up). After this, the USB Type-C cigarette lighter stopped working. I read a post that doesn't recommend using a secondhand OCU due to possible damage to the system. Do you think it's safe in my case? I imagine that if I get a secondhand module, the ideal thing would be to buy one with data sets for T6.1. Thank you very much for your help. I'll try to post some images of the process in case they're helpful to anyone.

 

[J.Aspinen]

Car wont go online so it doesnt matter if the ocu is new or used. You cant replace used ocu and do adaptions online, that is where things starts to go wrong and a big mess is ready.
For the ocu mute, you can code it out. If you have SOS led, its gonna stay red not matter what. You can code out the whole SOS system, if your country laws does not require it.

 

[cguncha]

Car wont go online so it doesnt matter if the ocu is new or used. You cant replace used ocu and do adaptions online, that is where things starts to go wrong and a big mess is ready.
For the ocu mute, you can code it out. If you have SOS led, its gonna stay red not matter what. You can code out the whole SOS system, if your country laws does not require it.

Now I understand. I imagine component protection is the cause. As long as the car doesn't connect to the internet, I'll be safe :). Can I upload the dataset and parameterization for the new OCU offline? Could you sell me the data to configure OCU correctly? It would make things much easier for me. Last thing!!! Remember the pair of Ethernet cables in the harness, pin 11 and 12, green connector? I'm not sure whether to connect them or not. They don't currently exist in my harness.

 

[cguncha]

Car wont go online so it doesnt matter if the ocu is new or used. You cant replace used ocu and do adaptions online, that is where things starts to go wrong and a big mess is ready.
For the ocu mute, you can code it out. If you have SOS led, its gonna stay red not matter what. You can code out the whole SOS system, if your country laws does not require it.

It is not feasible to disconnect SOS, it seems that the Spanish ITV (Technical Vehicle Inspection) is responsible for checking the correct operation of SOS, in order to be able to circulate on the roads.

 

[J.Aspinen]

Now I understand. I imagine component protection is the cause. As long as the car doesn't connect to the internet, I'll be safe :). Can I upload the dataset and parameterization for the new OCU offline? Could you sell me the data to configure OCU correctly? It would make things much easier for me. Last thing!!! Remember the pair of Ethernet cables in the harness, pin 11 and 12, green connector? I'm not sure whether to connect them or not. They don't currently exist in my harness.

CP removal is possible but not needed. I dont remember if it even had cp. In this case Highline ocu is needed only for convert and transfer gps signal to mib3, nothing else. Mib3 uses ETH for gps. Some India market mib3 has gps connector. You have to connect the original ocu when you go to the inspection, otherwise SOS led is red.

 

[cguncha]

CP removal is possible but not needed. I dont remember if it even had cp. In this case Highline ocu is needed only for convert and transfer gps signal to mib3, nothing else. Mib3 uses ETH for gps. Some India market mib3 has gps connector. You have to connect the original ocu when you go to the inspection, otherwise SOS led is red.

I understand, so I have to keep the lowline setting on highline, because it is simply used to send GPS data, on my MIB3 there is no GPS connector, so I need the pair of Ethernet cables to OCU.

 

[J.Aspinen]

Dont know what you mean by "lowline setting". ETH pair should be on ocus connector already. In this topics project, I only switched ocu and gps signal was immediately received by mib3.

 

[cguncha]

Sorry for too much information for me. I'm clear that I need the OCU Highline. It could be new or used. If it's new, what's the procedure to adapt it to my car and keep the green LED on SOS? I definitely don't have the Ethernet cables. I have an analog instrument cluster with a basic FIS. I don't know if this could be the reason. I haven't found any information about Type-C cables and their connection to the harness. Thank you again.